texfash.com: It will soon be doomsday for our planet, considering that the biggest polluting industries are falling short of most climate goals. Every report of Stand.earth starting with the Fashion Forward report of 2020 indicates that things are hardly getting better. Are your warnings falling on deaf ears?
Todd Paglia: At Stand.earth, we are not doomsdayers! It is true that change is not happening quickly enough, but consider that before our Levi’s campaign there were no major brands that were taking responsibility for their full climate footprint and there was active debate in the Science-based Target for the sector about excluding Scope 3 emissions which are often 90–99% of their total emissions.
And since then, dozens and dozens of brands have adopted real targets and they have begun the hard work of reducing their impact. In some regions we now have the IT sector adding their decarbonisation efforts and we hope to begin bringing on heavy industry decarbonisation demands in the next year. Momentum takes a while to build and then accelerates and that is where we find hope and progress.
You have been working on fossil fashion for a while. But polyester just refuses to go away. It's far too big a lobby that is rich, powerful and influential. Do you think there are far too few people/organisations that are working on this issue?
Todd Paglia: There definitely is a lack of public awareness that polyester is derived from petroleum. “Fracked fashion” is what we call it and there is a major awareness gap: millions of climate concerned people are literally walking around in clothes made from oil and they don’t know it. This is an issue that we think can change rapidly once people realise what they have on their bodies right now and that alternatives exist.
This is especially important because research from groups like Planet Tracker has shown that the oil and gas industry is increasingly investing in petrochemicals, including polyester, as a “Plan B” for their products as the world moves to decarbonise—it's a massive issue that needs more attention.