What will actually competitively position man-made cellulosics from a resiliency and a sustainability perspective, will be when there's a diversification of the fibre basket. It will be when there's a significant amount of MMCF made from more circular NextGen inputs like discarded clothing, agricultural residues and industrial food waste. That will drop the carbon footprint by at least four tonnes per tonne of product. It will reduce the water that's being used by 50 percent. It will reduce the impact on biodiversity five-fold. That's the NextGen MMCF direction.